Did Yahshua Pre-exist?

There are many opinions as to the pre-existence of the Son of Yahweh.  The only way to find the truth is to read the scriptures and see what they say concerning his pre-existence.

John 1:1-14
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Yahweh, and the Word was Yahweh.  (2)  He was in the beginning with Yahweh.  (3)  All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.  (4)  In him was life, and the life was the light of men.  (5)  The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.  (6)  There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.  (7)  He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him.  (8)  He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.  (9)  The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world.  (10)  He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him.  (11)  He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.  (12)  But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of Yahweh,  (13)  who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of Yahweh.  (14)  And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of favor and truth.  

These verses show us that Yahshua was
1) with Yahweh at the beginning  verse 1
2) made all things  verse 3
3) was sent to live here among humans in human form  verse 14

Hebrews 1:1-2  
Long ago, at many times and in many ways, Yahweh spoke to our fathers by the prophets,  (2)  but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.

Colossians 1:16-17
For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things were created through him and for him.  (17)  And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Scripture clearly tells us that Yahweh’s son created the world.
 
Genesis 1:26  
Then Elohim said, "Let Us make man in our image, after Our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth."

Two beings are here speaking:  Let us make man after our image …   If this was a singular being the Hebrew language could have easily made that clear.  It didn’t because the Father and the Son were both there when man was created.

Genesis 14:13-20
Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaks of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner. These were allies of Abram.  (14)  When Abram heard that his kinsman had been taken captive, he led forth his trained men, born in his house, 318 of them, and went in pursuit as far as Dan.  (15)  And he divided his forces against them by night, he and his servants, and defeated them and pursued them to Hobah, north of Damascus.  (16)  Then he brought back all the possessions, and also brought back his kinsman Lot with his possessions, and the women and the people.  (17)  After his return from the defeat of Chedorlaomer and the kings who were with him, the king of Sodom went out to meet him at the Valley of Shaveh (that is, the King's Valley).  (18)  And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. (He was priest of El Most High.)  (19)  And he blessed him and said, "Blessed be Abram by El Most High, Possessor of heaven and earth;  (20)  and blessed be El Most High, who has delivered your enemies into your hand!" And Abram gave him a tenth of everything.

Hebrews 7:1-6
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High El, met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,  (2)  and to him Abraham apportioned a tenth part of everything. He is first, by translation of his name, king of righteousness, and then he is also king of Salem, that is, king of peace.  (3)  He is without father or mother or genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of Yahweh he continues a priest forever.  (4)  See how great this man was to whom Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the spoils!  (5)  And those descendants of Levi who receive the priestly office have a commandment in the law to take tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, though these also are descended from Abraham.  (6)  But this man who does not have his descent from them received tithes from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.

Here we read two accounts of Abraham’s encounter with Melchizedek.   There’s an interesting thing about Melchizedek.  He has no beginning and no end of life.  This is obviously not Yahweh the Father so who can it be?  Also scripture says that he was made like the son of Yahweh.  Further study into the words here (Strong’s 871 aphomoioo¯) indicates that Melchizedek was a model or copy of the son of Yahweh.  Yahshua in his previous existence came to earth as a model of what he would become once again in the future.

Hebrews 6:20  
where Yahshua has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.

If Melchizedek was someone else who cannot die, then why would Yahshua need to take over his priesthood?  It has to be the same being.  

Genesis 17:1-6
And when Abram was ninety nine years old, Yahweh appeared to Abram and said to him, I am El Shaddai! Walk before me and be perfect;  (2)  and I will make My covenant between Me and you, and will multiply you very much.  (3)  And Abram fell on his face. And Elohim spoke with him, saying,  (4)  As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.  (5)  And your name no longer shall be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham. For I have made you a father of many nations.  (6)  And I will make you very fruitful, exceedingly. And I will give you for nations. And kings shall come out of you.

Genesis 18:1-8
And Yahweh appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre. And he was sitting at the door of the tent in the heat of the day.  (2)  And he lifted up his eyes and looked; and, behold, three men were standing by him. And he saw, and he ran to meet them from the entrance of the tent. And he bowed to the ground.  (3)  And he said, My Master, if now I have found favor in Your sight, I beg You, do not leave from near Your servant.  (4)  Please allow a little water to be taken and You wash Your feet, and rest under the tree.  (5)  And I will bring a bite of bread and will sustain Your heart. Then You may pass on, for this is why You have passed over to Your servant. And they said, Do so, as you have said.  (6)  And Abraham ran into the tent to Sarah and said, Hurry, prepare three measures of fine meal, knead it and make cakes.  (7)  And Abraham ran to the herd and brought a son of the herd, tender and good, and gave it to a youth. And he hurried to prepare it.  (8)  And he took curds and milk and the son of the herd which he had prepared, and he set before them. And he stood by them under the tree. And they ate.

Two times Abraham has a personal encounter with Yahweh.  Was it the Father?  Not if you believe the scripture.

John 1:18
No one has seen Yahweh (the Father) at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He declares Him.

The Son declares the Father.  No one has seen Him.  If Abraham was speaking with Yahweh it had to be the Son who is also called Yahweh.

Genesis 19:24  
And Yahweh rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from Yahweh out of the heavens.

Here in Genesis it shows two Yahweh’s working together in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Joshua 5:13-15
When Joshua was by Jericho, he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, a man was standing before him with his drawn sword in his hand. And Joshua went to him and said to him, "Are you for us, or for our adversaries?"  (14)  And he said, "No; but I am the commander of the army of Yahweh. Now I have come." And Joshua fell on his face to the earth and worshiped and said to him, "What does my master say to his servant?"  (15)  And the commander of Yahweh's army said to Joshua, "Take off your sandals from your feet, for the place where you are standing is holy." And Joshua did so.

Here Joshua runs into a being who allows Joshua to worship him.  Was it an angel?  

Revelation 19:9-10
And he says to me, Write: Blessed are the ones having been called to the supper of the marriage of the Lamb. And he says to me, These Words of Yahweh are true.  (10)  And I fell before his feet to worship him, but he said to me, Behold! Stop! I am a fellow-slave of yours, and of your brothers, having the testimony of Yahshua. Worship Yahweh. For the testimony of Yahshua is the spirit of prophecy.

Angels (messengers) of Yahweh do not allow humans to worship them.  This had to be someone else, someone who could be worshipped.

Deuteronomy 6:13-15
It is Yahweh your Elohim you shall fear. Him you shall serve and by his name you shall swear.  (14)  You shall not go after other elohim, elohim of the peoples who are around you,  (15)  for Yahweh your Elohim in your midst is a jealous El, lest the anger of Yahweh your Elohim be kindled against you, and he destroy you from off the face of the earth.

Only Yahweh is to be worshipped.  Joshua encountered Yahweh (the son) that day it could not have been anyone else.

Proverbs 30:4  
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name? Surely you know!

In this scripture which was written centuries before the Messiah walked on this earth we find out that both he and his father exist and that both have names.  

Luke 10:18
And he said to them, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.

Here Yahshua himself is speaking of an event he witnessed which occurred before the creation of Genesis chapter one.

John 3:13
No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven--the Son of Man.

Here Yahshua tells us he came down from heaven.

John 8:58
Yahshua said to them, Truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham came to be, I existed!

In this verse and other similar verses Yahshua speaks of his existence prior to coming and living here as a man.

Phillipians 2:5-8
Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Messiah Yahshua, (6) who, although He existed in the form of Elohim, did not regard equality with Yahweh a thing to be grasped, (7) but emptied Himself, taking the form of a slave, and being made in the likeness of men. (8) And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a stake.

John 17:5
Now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with that glory I had with You before the world existed.

Yahshua emptied himself of his power before coming and living on this earth as the “Son of Man”.  He prayed to His Father that he might once again have that glory and power.

Ephesians 1:17-23
that the Elohim of our Master Yahshua Messiah, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him,  (18)  having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints,  (19)  and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power toward us who believe, according to the working of his great might  (20)  that he worked in Messiah when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,  (21)  far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.  (22)  And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church,  (23)  which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.

The Father granted Yahshua’s request and now Yahshua sits at the Father’s right hand.  

Hebrews 13:8
Yahshua Messiah is the same yesterday and today and forever.

Yahshua has been there all along, watching when Satan was cast down, creating the earth and mankind.  Dealing with men in old testament times, becoming a man who lived a perfect life and died for our sins.   Returning to the Father and receiving all authority.





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